Soly catches up with PGA Tour pro and broadcaster, Johnson Wagner, to discuss his transition from playing full time to broadcasting for the Golf Channel as well as his take on the PGA Tour policy changes, life on tour as a "mule", LIV, the distance debate and more.

A fresh, funny discussion of all things golf from the guys at No Laying Up. Episodes air twice a week and topics include tournament recaps, interviews, deep dive player profiles, golf travel, and more.

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NLU Podcast, Episode 677: Johnson Wagner

Tony Finau wins the Mexico Open at Vidanta outlasting Jon Rahm to win on the PGA Tour for a sixth time. Soly, DJ and Neil fire up the pod to relitigate Big Tone's career in light of the strength of field this week - plus some discussion of Akshay Bhatia's appearance in the final group on Sunday as well.

We also talk Hannah Green's win at the LPGA LA Championship at Wilshire, Taylor Gooch's second consecutive LIV win, our midweek interview with Keith Pelley, possible Ryder Cup captain's pick candidates, and more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 676: Mexico Open Recap

Keith Pelley, CEO of the European Tour, joins the podcast to chat about the recent Sports Resolutions Decision, the strategic alliance between the DP World Tour and the PGA Tour, LIV, OWGR, the future of the DP World Tour, how the last few years have unfolded, and a lot more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 675: Keith Pelley

Neil and Cody are back in the Booth for a fourth installment to recap Neil's recent half marathon. Then, (32:45) we welcome in KVV to review his experience reporting and crafting his recent, and final, piece for ESPN on the benefits of medicinal mushroom use. You can find 

The No Laying Up collective chops it up with a wide variety of guests from all corners of the golf world, and more importantly, guests from the golf-adjacent world. 



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Episode 236: The Booth Vol. 4 with Neil, Cody and KVV

We've got a lot to cover on this week's recap pod as Lilia Vu wins in a playoff at the LPGA Chevron Championship while, on the PGA Tour, Nick Hardy and Davis Riley shoot 30 under to win the Zurich in New Orleans.

Special thanks to our guest appearances on our Chevron coverage by LPGA pro and current Golf Channel commentator Karen Stupples and stats aficionado Justin Ray for a complete look at the first impressions of the Chevron in Houston as well as Vu's family background, Angel Yin missing out on her first major, Nelly Korda's week, and more.

We also take stock of the role of the Zurich team event on the PGA Tour and some other format possibilities, the atmosphere at this week's LIV event in Australia, plus the return of This Week in James Hahn Tweets.

NLU Podcast, Episode 674: Chevron LPGA and Zurich PGA Recap

We're joined by the Golf Channel's Grant Boone and NLU Young Hitter Lakareber Abe to react to the first two rounds of the LPGA's Chevron Championship. We break down the leaders, those who missed the cut, the course and a look ahead to the weekend in Houston. Check out the full recap 

NLU Podcast, Episode 673: Friday LPGA Chevron Recap

With Randy out on vacation, TC welcomes Charlie Warzel back to the TrapDraw to follow up on the reaction to his article in the Atlantic on the state of tipping and a chop session covering cooking, airlines, recent AI advancements, some situations to monitor and more.

Episode 235: TC Chop Session with Charlie Warzel

Ahead of the LPGA's first major of the year, Soly catches up with Danielle Kang to talk all things LPGA and major championship golf as well as her lessons with Butch Harmon, her career goals and more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 672: Danielle Kang

The first major of the LPGA season begins this week in Houston with the Chevron Championship. Big Randy, Tron and Cody recap some of the recent storylines across the LPGA before diving into the week ahead with the questions we'd like to see answered and a draft of our picks to hoist the trophy on Sunday. We also get into the event moving from its longtime home in Palm Springs, plus our best (and worse) case scenarios for the tournament champion.

NLU Podcast, Episode 671: LPGA Chevron Championship Preview

Matt Fitzpatrick wins at Hilton Head in a playoff over Jordan Spieth to claim the RBC Heritage. We recap a busy week at Harbour Town including Spieth's close call, the slow play controversy surrounding Patrick Cantlay, the tournament's profile and designated event status, Rory's absence and a ton more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 670: Heritage Recap

We're talking NBA basketball this week! Randy is joined by Bob Sturm (

) to discuss the joy of sitting court-side, the mess developing in Dallas, All-NBA teams, and the most interesting playoff matchups. You can check out all of Bob's great work at The Athletic and listen to him on The Ticket Sports Radio in DFW. Enjoy!

Episode 234: Talking The Association w/ Bob Sturm

We're back with another major championship recap, and this time, it's 1995. Soly and KVV take you through Ben Crenshaw's triumph at Augusta, Corey Pavin at Shinnecock Hills, John Daly at the Old Course, and Steve Elkington at Riviera. We recount some of the more important and entertaining moments in each championship, discuss what golf looked like in 1995, who had close calls, and a ton more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 669: 1995 Major Championships

Jon Rahm wins at Augusta National after an extended Masters Sunday. Rahm claimed his second major by passing third-round leader Brooks Koepka and then withstanding an unexpected charge from Phil Mickelson to ultimately win by four strokes.

Soly, Neil, DJ and Cody recap a hectic and crazy week at Augusta along with guest appearances from KVV - who spent the week on-site - as well as Randy and Tron for their reaction to the first major of the season.

NLU Podcast, Episode 668: Sunday Masters Recap

We are joined by Scott Van Pelt, Wright Thompson, and Iona Stephen as we recap a rainy Saturday at Augusta National. We preview the final Rahm/Koepka showdown, discuss Phil's resurgence, Tiger, and everything else from the day that was.

NLU Podcast, Episode 667: Saturday Masters Recap

Harry Higgs joins the show to chat about Brooks Koepka's open to the tournament, patient major championship golf, trees, the Koepka/Woodland incident, and a lot more. We also check in with Kevin Van Valkenburg who followed Brooks today, TC's takes, Kira K. Dixon from Golf Channel, our usual jaunt down the leaderboard, some weather prognosticating, and a lot more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 666: Friday Masters Recap

John Wood from NBC joins the podcast as we chat through an eventful opening day at Augusta National. We also check in with Kevin Van Valkenburg on his day following Phil Mickelson, discuss the big names at the top of the leaderboard, the disappointment from Rory, Spieth's up-and-down day, odds going forward, and a lot more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 665: Thursday Masters Recap

If you have two preview shows, do you even have one? We went live with a special Wednesday preview on the eve of the 2023 Masters talking about developments on the week, Ridley's press conference, Phil's bizarre champion's dinner behavior, Tiger's comments, Bryson, and a lot more.

NLU Podcast, Episode 664: Wednesday Masters Happy Hour

TC & Randy return to chop it up this week! They run down the biggest, most important stories from around the world. Enjoy!

Episode 233: TC & Randy Chop Session

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